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102 posts s1owpoke 102 posts
s1owpoke
I am supposed to be Scottish, French and Spanish but not sure what I look like...hahaha! I guess I see myself as more of a conscious human being :wink:

I know this is going to sound crazy but I found my love for ICM through youtube and the internet. I did have a couple of indian fusion CD's (back in 1991 or so) but I could not find anyone who could tell me where I could find more of this type of music. It wasen't until 2006 until I came across some ICM online and have been hooked since. Since then, I have taken tabla for about 4 years as well as vocals for the past year or so. I purchased a harmonium for vocal training and I can't explain how much peace it has given to me. Practicing has become more of a spiritual practice and I treat the music and instruments as such.

I guess I listen to vocal/instrumental about 50/50. I can only speak English so I can not understand the meanings of a lot of the vocals but this is not a bad thing. Infact, I can listen to the singer in a purer way because I feel that sometimes words can distract the listener with its meanings. I love alaap as well. I have been debating lately if I should learn Hindi so I will be able to sing some compositions clearer and understand vocal music. Not sure where this will lead but for now I enjoy singing sargam and it is giving me a great sense of raags and connection with music.

I am still a bit disappointed in my abilities to listen to vocal/instrumental and not able to say the sargam being played. I can hear SA obviously and sometimes common phrases but to just recognize all of the swara, I still can't. I hope hope hope one day I will be able to so that I will be able to learn from recordings instead of just enjoying.

That's my ramble......oh and about the Sitar in the West. I was trying to explain to someone about an Esraj I just ordered. So I said it is bowed and kind of like a violin in sound trying to explain it the best I can. I said it has a neck similar to Sitar which she didn't know what that was neither. But at the same time I had an Indian friend of mine call a Tanpura a Sitar so you never assume.

Esraj is shipped this coming Wednesday!!!! I can't wait!!!!

Peace
S1owpoke

"Real music is not for wealth, not for honours or even the joys of the mind... but as a path for realization and salvation."
Ustad Ali Akbar Khan
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Abhimonyu 33 posts
Abhimonyu
I am new to this forum. Is the forum almost exclusively for instrumental music?
Although there is a dhrupad section, I find almost no discussion on vocal music, especially kheyal.
Is there anyone interested in AIR recordings of D.V.Paluskar and his contemporaries? If so, I'll make an esnips account and upload them.

Does anyone have recordings of Ramesh Chandra Banerjee (other than Puriya), Gopeshwar Banerjee (other than 78 rpm), or Tarapada Chakravarti (other than published works) ?
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jaan e kharabat 1,401 posts
jaan e kharabat
Although the primary focus of most members here is on either sitar or tabla related issues, there are plenty of lovers of vocal music too, me included.

Looking forward to listen to your esnips folder and discussing khyal with you.
If there are just ''six tones'' in an octave [sic] then why have frets for tones that don't exist?
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Aanaddha 1,932 posts
Aanaddha
Count me in, also. There is always so much to learn. For most instrumentalists here I believe the vocal arts remain a largely un-tapped resource. Who would nor benefit from this discussion? My biggest regret is that I have so little to offer.

The one thing that has always impressed me deeply is the natural awe and esteem held by the best instrumentalists, including tabla players, of their vocalist peers and counterparts.
If he could sing, and nature to accompany him, what need would he have for an instrument?
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Abhimonyu 33 posts
Abhimonyu
Ok, just give me a few days for the upload. Is esnips ok? Does anyone have anything better to recommend?

Abhimonyu Deb
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povster Senior Member 2,537 posts
povster
Abhimonyu wrote:
Ok, just give me a few days for the upload. Is esnips ok? Does anyone have anything better to recommend?

Abhimonyu Deb
Esnips is fine but if you can, after you upload, go to "edit" and click on the "download" option to allow the files to be downloaded rather than having to juust keep listening to them on esnips. If that is ok with you!

Looking forward to this!
...Michael
Dasani - the official bottled water of ICM
Panini - the official sandwich of ICM
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Aanaddha 1,932 posts
Aanaddha
For starters: this short little clip always makes me smile:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/f63af61e-5f53-412f-8001-bc3c2e69e6c0/Vintage-Music-from-India---16---Narayanrao-Vyas---Nis-Bharan-Kaise-Jaun-(late-1920s)

And this all-time classic of Bhimsen Joshi:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1zimnjcy12n/1-01 Raga Shudh Kalyan - Khayal - Ek.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2tmfdhmknma/1-02 Raga Shudh Kalyan - Khayal - Ti.m4a
If he could sing, and nature to accompany him, what need would he have for an instrument?
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Abhimonyu 33 posts
Abhimonyu
Sorry for the delay in uploading the music I promised.
Here is the link to my esnips folder.

http://www.esnips.com/web/abhimonyudeb-MiscellaneousMusic

It's a bit shallow at the moment. But I assure you it won't be for long.

P. S.: Please let me know if the link works or not. I have enabled downloading. If I accidentally missed enabling the download of a particular file, please let me know.
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ragamala Senior Member 1,744 posts
ragamala
Abhimonyu wrote:
Sorry for the delay in uploading the music I promised.
Here is the link to my esnips folder.

http://www.esnips.com/web/abhimonyudeb-MiscellaneousMusic

It's a bit shallow at the moment. But I assure you it won't be for long.

P. S.: Please let me know if the link works or not. I have enabled downloading. If I accidentally missed enabling the download of a particular file, please let me know.
Many thanks - looks good to me, and certainly performances I haven't seen before
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ragamala Senior Member 1,744 posts
ragamala
A dhrupad treat from ITC this month

http://www.itcsra.org/aom/artist_ofthe_month.asp

and to avoid the post being kicked out to the dhrupad forum :wink:

A reminder of September's offering

http://www.itcsra.org/aom/artist_ofthe_month.asp?aomid=85
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jaan e kharabat 1,401 posts
jaan e kharabat
Abhimonyu wrote:
Sorry for the delay in uploading the music I promised.
Here is the link to my esnips folder.

http://www.esnips.com/web/abhimonyudeb-MiscellaneousMusic

It's a bit shallow at the moment. But I assure you it won't be for long.

P. S.: Please let me know if the link works or not. I have enabled downloading. If I accidentally missed enabling the download of a particular file, please let me know.
Wonderful. I hadn't heard the Darbari before, so that was a great treat. Nice violin sangat too. Any idea who the accompanists were?

What a singer DV Paluskar was? I always wonder what a singer he might have become had he lived more than the 30 odd years that was eventually alloted to him.

Btw the second part of the Darbari might have an error as I was able to download only a few kbs worth.
If there are just ''six tones'' in an octave [sic] then why have frets for tones that don't exist?
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Abhimonyu 33 posts
Abhimonyu
I think all of the second batch of recordings I uploaded are corrupted. I tried downloading the Jaunpuri and it didn't work. I'll upload them again tonight (I live in Kolkata).

The violin accompaniment certainly is wonderful. I don't know who it is, but I do know that Paluskar and V.G. Jog were very good friends and, of course, Jog saheb often played on Akashvani. So it may be V.G. Jog.
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Abhimonyu 33 posts
Abhimonyu
I've re-uploaded the 2nd batch of recordings, plus some more.
I have a few more of Paluskar (Malhar, Nand, Puriya) and then I'll go on to other artistes.
Please use the same link as before.

One more thing. Most of the forum's members probably live outside India. But is there any member from Kolkata?

Abhimonyu Deb
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jaan e kharabat 1,401 posts
jaan e kharabat
Thanks for fixing those uploads and the new ones. Unfortunately you haven't enabled the "download" button on your latest work there and only a few of the clips are actually playing. The ones that are playing are the jhaptal Jaijaiwanti, the two Darbari, the Bajan and the Bageshri. The rest don't play when I try to open them.

p.s. I'm hoping that we can generate more discussions of this brilliant artist's brilliant recordings that you are sharing with us, after this latest round of postings.
If there are just ''six tones'' in an octave [sic] then why have frets for tones that don't exist?
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Abhimonyu 33 posts
Abhimonyu
I'll upload to Mediafire from now on. I'll give you the link when I'm done.

Abhimonyu Deb
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panchamkauns 273 posts
panchamkauns
Abhimonyu wrote:
I am new to this forum. Is the forum almost exclusively for instrumental music?
I’ve also wondered about this. Are most people on the forum non-Indians? Non-Indian listeners seem to focus a lot on sitar music.

Myself, I appreciate a good sitar album as much as the next man, but the sarod is where I draw the line!
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