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trippymonkey

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I thought this would be the far best place to mention & discuss-talk about this most wonderful rendition of the gorgeous Raag Saazgiri.

Just having problems finding out much about the raag itself ?!?!!? Its aroh etc & packards for instance. What combination of raags is it?
One CAN learn a lot from recordings such as this but to get it in 'writing' so to speak, would be fantastic.

Will be reporting back from India very soon !!!!!

Best Wishes & a Merry Xmas to ALL here !!!!!
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In-case no-one has heard the above mentioned recordings, a short clip can be found here


I have a 90 minute VK recording and bout 20 minute Shujaat recording if anyone wants me to upload it

Raga Saazgiri is mentioned in Pdt Bhatkhande's corpus - and it's a fairly old and rare raag; it's supposedly a combination of puriya and purvi, but not quite a straight up mix - it has it's own peculiarities.

That: Marwa
Vadi: G Samvadi: N (As vadi is in lower tetrachord, it's an evening time raga)
Jati: Sampooran-Sampooran
(lowercase m is tivra Ma)

Aroh: N. r G, m G m P, d P S'
Avroh: S' N D, m D m G, P G r S
Pakad: N. r G, m G, r S, G m N D, m D m G, P G r S

A nice vocal composition by Pdt K.G Ginde


Another by Ustds Hamid Ali and Fateh Ali:
http://oceanofragas.com/monthraga/Saazgiri_HamidAli&FatehAli.mp3

Hope that helps
Best Wishes.
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trippymonkey

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AAH Many thanks for this info !!!
Where in the UK are you ????
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Originally Posted by "trippymonkey"
AAH Many thanks for this info !!!
Where in the UK are you ????
Sorry should have updated it - I don't live in the UK ops:
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desh

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"I have a 90 minute VK recording and bout 20 minute Shujaat recording if anyone wants me to upload it "

Yes please!
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trippymonkey

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May I ask where UVK was playing the 90 min recording? I know the CD isn't THAT long - although I DO wish !?!?!?
Would it upload as an MP3 & so be relatively small ???

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Here is UVK with Kishan Maharaj on tabla - it is 90 minutes but still incomplete I suspect due to the 45 minute tape limit:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uhtabooj5m31keu
I compressed it a bit for Nick
Here is Shujaat's version (I'm not sure where I found this (probably on here lol) but the audio quality is pretty poor):
http://www.mediafire.com/?hkoyr6yajb8prfb
And from youtube (Probably Subrata-Ji's excellent archives). the unique Ustd MSKP:
http://www.mediafire.com/?t00flhgxgz1a139


As a side note there seems to be a recording from 1975 with UVK and Pdt KM floating around (possibly from the same recording above) which has a 20 minute alaap and 20 minute gat portion:
http://vk.com/wall-36019135_351

IMO, UVK seems to treat it more in a marwa-esque way with a rare sprinkling of komal dhaivat, with mand like phrases (as seen in Bhatiyar), which I would argue is not typical Saazgiri, if that makes any sense

Best Wishes.
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Sanjeeb

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I heard Raag Saazgiri first by UVK in the seventies on a LP record.
From what I gathered about Raag Saazgiri is that it is made up of four Raags namely Yaman, Purya, Purvi and Bharav as explained by my teacher Ust Shujaat Khan in the recording you have shared. G. That concert was held in Delhi at the tomb of the Mugal Emperor Humayun about eight or ten years ago if I remember well.
Thanks for sharing.
Sanjeeb Sircar
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ram.sitar

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Bhatkhande Ji's version and UVK's interpretation of Saazgiri differs in significant extend. As it's said, Saazgiri was creation of Amir Khusro.
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