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Tirakitataka

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Kayada no 1 is outstandingly great
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dinegine

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I want to see paltas of the first kayida? :wink:
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rch

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Among the 4 khaidas , I like the 4th the best !!The 1st one is way too bland. Please post more. I'm learning something here. 8)
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Among the 4 khaidas , I like the 4th the best !!The 1st one is way too bland. Please post more. I'm learning something here. 8)
Is this a serious response? Sorry I don't mean to sound arrogant, but sometimes posts ( or the interpretations of posts) can be quite ambiguous.

I am really interested to understand what you are learning from this?

I think it would be really insightful to know.
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I thought Delhi kaida was a stock ( :!: ) kaida..

Anyways, here is something to expand your horizon..

Dha Tete Tete Dha Tete DhaTi DhaGe DhiNaGeNa
GeNa Tete Dha Tete Dha GiNa DhaGe TiNaKeNa

cheers!
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deep

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I don't get it..this is only bhari part..
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Amisto

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Here is one of my favorites.

Dha - ti - Dha- Dha ti
- Dha ge na da ge thin na
ta - ti - ta - ta ti
- Dha ge na dha ge dhin na

Dha - ti - Dha - Dha ti
- Dha ge na Dha ge thin na
Dha ge na thin na - da ge
na thin na - Dha ti - Dha
ge na Dha ge thin na Dha ti
- Dha ge na thin na ke na

ta - ti - ta - tati
- ta ke na(k) ta ke thin na
Dha ge na Din na - Dha ge
na Din na - Dha ti - Dha
ge na Dha ge Dhin na Dha ti
- dha ge na Din na Ge na

- is a 1 beat rest
thin is tin + ke
(k) is an otional ke on the Na in this line - this line has 2 double's ke's or 4 ke's total)

Enjoy

Kevin
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roshanraj

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Hi nice to find this forum active again. I'm going to chime in on this nice topic. How are these:

1)
dha ti dha ti dha dha thun na
ta ti ta ti dha dha dhin na

which can easily be expanded to:

dha ti dha ti dha dha thun na
ti dha dha ti dha dha thun na
ta ti ta ti ta ta thun na
ti dha dha ti dha dha dhin na

which can then be easily expanded to:

dha ti dha dha thun na
ti dha dha ti dha dha thun na
ti dha dha ti dha dha ti dha
ti dha dha ti dha dha thun na

+ khali

The first two are taught to beginner tabla students of Suresh Talwalkar and the last one I have heard from several of Gyan Prakash Ghosh's students.

2)
Kat tete ghe ghe tete
kata kata ghe ghe tete
Kat tete ghe ghe tete
ghe ghe nag thunakena
Kat tete ke ke tete
kata kata ke ke tete
Kat tete ghe ghe tete
ghe ghe nag dhinaghena

3)
Ghe ghe tete ghe ghe tete
ghe ghe nag dhinaghena
kata kata ghe ghe tete
ghe ghe nag thunakena
Ke ke tete ke ke tete
ke ke nag thunakena
kata kata ghe ghe tete
ghe ghe nag dhinagena
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kzandosuenos

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hi i m a beginner unfortunately i cant take lesson and i try to learn as much as possible by mi self, until i have the possibility to get lesson, and one of mi doubt when i look some kaidas in internet and they are write on this way i cant understand how to do subdivision to know when to play each bolt

Dha - ti - Dha- Dha ti
- Dha ge na da ge thin na
ta - ti - ta - ta ti
- Dha ge na dha ge dhin na

i guess is like this ?

1 2 3 4
dha ti dha dha ti

1 2 3 4
dha ge na da ge thin na


or this?

Dha Tete Tete Dha Tete DhaTi DhaGe DhiNaGeNa
GeNa Tete Dha Tete Dha GiNa DhaGe TiNaKeNa


please if some can tell me how to do subdivision in this type of notation i will appreciate it sou much

thanks
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kzandosuenos

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i mean

1_________2_______ 3________4
dha_______ti______ dha _____dha ti

1_________2_________3_______4
dha ge____ na da____ ge_____ thin na
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Originally Posted by "kzandosuenos"
i mean

1_________2_______ 3________4
dha_______ti______ dha _____dha ti

1_________2_________3_______4
dha ge____ na da____ ge_____ thin na
like this I think...

1_________2_______ 3________4
dha_______ti______ dha _____dha ti

1_________2_________3_______4
______dha ge na______da ge__ thin na

It's very difficult to learn like this, you need to hear the bols.

By the way isn't kaida one in the OP teental theka not a kaida... :|

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Hi Greg and Kzandosuenos, absolutely right on the needing to hear the bols part. This is why it's basically impossible to learn this instrument from a book.

Yes #1 of that Kaida list is theka for Tintal and not a Kaida. There are compositions famous in Lucknow called Palta-Theka where they play with the theka in a Kaida-ish fashion, but it's not the same.

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well thanks for the answer.. i want to get lesson but for now it is impossible because they are to expensive, and like classic music arabic, african, old and new, all the music have a different way to write it, thinking on this i try to figure out how to read this type of notation...maybe i can play some think with out the lessons, i mean life is about that to practice and enjoy what you do, if is not the classical way to do is this wrong ? if i have no lessons i cant play tabla ? i beleive this is extreme way to look music and art in general, i can play a little bit i took some lessons to get a basic idea about tabla and believe me i really enjoy what i play.... cheers ,
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....make sure you plenty of listening too....good luck...Dhagedhina!!!..... 8)
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Originally Posted by "kzandosuenos"
well thanks for the answer.. i want to get lesson but for now it is impossible because they are to expensive, and like classic music arabic, african, old and new, all the music have a different way to write it, thinking on this i try to figure out how to read this type of notation...maybe i can play some think with out the lessons, i mean life is about that to practice and enjoy what you do, if is not the classical way to do is this wrong ? if i have no lessons i cant play tabla ? i beleive this is extreme way to look music and art in general, i can play a little bit i took some lessons to get a basic idea about tabla and believe me i really enjoy what i play.... cheers ,
Regarding the cost of lessons, you will just need to factor that in relative to how serious and to what capacity you want to learn Tabla. Maybe some teacher and you can work out a trade of some sort, maybe there are online lessons you take that aren't so expensive and you can afford it once and a while. I will say this; there is a right and wrong way to do anything. Regardless of "classical, non-classical" definitions, the tones achieved on the Tabla are either right or wrong, with very little ambiguity across all the parts of the world that play Tabla. The style you pick after knowing how to produce these tones is totally up to you. Playing these tones, and achieving good technique while doing so is something that can only be achieved by studying with a teacher who knows what he/she is doing. A book is hopeless in this case.

Going back to your earlier comment on how each school has a different way of writing it, speaks to the fact that Tabla is an oral tradition. It is not necessarily meant to be written in anything except phonetic representation, hence the spelling differences. This point only reinforces the need to learn from a teacher directly who can see your hands, make corrections, and teach you the language in person.

If you enjoy what you play now that's great, learning in this way will only bring you and others greater enjoyment.

Best of luck in your pursuits!

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