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falcon.champs

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I am a beginner and I have a book called how to play tabla. It gives a teen tal theka: dha trak dhin dha dha trak dhin dha dha trak tin ta ta trak dhin dha

I know how to play all the bols except trak

How would you play trak?

I cannot find any information on it anywhere.

There are also bols of lom, vilom: dha tak dha ta NG dig nada NN KT dha ta dha GheGhe din din GheGhe ta NDha Nana dha NGe NN Gen NGe TT Gen NGe NN Gen Dha Nana Dha

How would you play: tak, NG, dig, nada, NN, KT, gheghe, Ndha, nge, TT, and gen?

Are these in some type of shorthand or something?

Thank you in advance for the help.

Derek Jackson
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Hello,
If you are a beginner you don't have to play trak, just play:
dha dhin dhin dha x 2
dha tin tin ta
ta dhin dhin dha This is the basics or the basic teental kaida.

Trak = Ta+Ka (with short time space inbetween like Kra which is Ka+Re as in the first vibhag of tintaal: Dha KraDhin KraDhin Dha
Tak = Ta+Ka (Taka)
NG = don't know maybe Na+Ge ?????
Dig = don't know maybe Dhi+Ge
Nada = Na+Dha
KT = Maybe Ka+Ta (Katta)
GheGhe = Ge+Ge
Ndha = Na+Dha (naDha)
Nge = Na+Ge (naGe)
TT= TaTa
gen + don't know maybe Ge+Na (Gena)

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thank you so much for the help
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In my understanding Traka is a short form of TiRaKiTa, and is only played with the right hand. It is the Delhi style Ti (Middle finger on syahi) and Ra (index finger on syahi) followed by Ka (combination of middle ring and pinky joined togather on the syahi). The bol Traka has come into play because beyond a certain laya TiRaKita becomes almost impossible. there may be other ways of playing Traka of course.

Please look at this website. It has animations and video clips that may help you. http://home.comcast.net/~tabla/

However, as has been reiterated many times on this forum - Get a teacher. Without one you will only make mistakes that cannot be corrected at a later time.

In fact, if you are a beginner, I suggest you don't touch the tabla at all. Learn to vocalise the bols (padhant) first, and get the laya absolutely right by counting the phlanges of the fingers of your left hand with your left thumb, and at the same time keeping time with the clap and wave with your right hand. Then learn to double the speed, quadruple it, halve it, jump to the quad again and so on. This will consume the best part of six months at a minimum.

Unless you train the mind, attempting to train the hands is quite pointless. Yes, they can go on concomittantly, but first comes first.
Look at the tabla (or any instrument) with this analogy. Consider the mind as the source of energy, and the tabla as the consumer of that energy. For the energy to travel from the mind to the tabla, it has to pass through a pipeline. This pipeline consists of
a) the subconscious mind (software),
b) the conscious mind (software) and
c) the hands (hardware)
Consider each of these elements as putting up resistance in the path of the flow of energy, suc that some energy is lost. Of these, the least resistance is offered by the subconscious, much more by the conscious and the most by the hands. In each of the elements there is loss of energy, such that what finally reaches the tabla is only a subset of the actual energy produced. For more energy to reach its destination, these resistances need to be reduced. By repeatedly reciting the bols, you train the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind is able to process information much faster than the conscious mind. The second aspect is to train the conscious mind, or even to eliminate it from the pipeline, as ultimately happens anyway. Lastly, you train the hands to physically deliver the energy to its destination, the tabla. Riyaaz, therefore has three, or at least two, parts. Mental and physical. Unless the mind is trained (internalising) it simply cannot transfer the energy to the consumer (externalising).

Sorry for the rant, but I am an electrical engineer by profession and that does seep through at times, but I hope this helps to understand the inner processes of learning. This true for any instrument though. The mind plays the instrument, the hands are merely the vehicle by which musical thought is transfered to the instrument.
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I have only had my tabla for a week now and I have been trying to learn on my own and I have realized a teacher is a necessity. Thank you for the help and thank you for the suggestions. I will be following them now as I am in contact with someone who will probably be my teacher.

Again, I sincerely say thank you. You have been an enormous help.

Derek Jackson
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You need a teacher -- Where are you?
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Hi
Check out my web site http://www.singingdrums.com I have posted 13 videos which can be downloaded which deal with the basics

Muthu Kumar

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Dhati dha_ takatirakita Dhati dha_ takatirakita Dhati Dha
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trak = tre ke.
ghen = loud ghe with long meend or sustain before the next stroke, often at the beginning phrase of a paran or similar kathak derived composition.

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If he could sing, and nature to accompany him, what need would he have for an instrument?
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You might try Debashish Chaudhuri. He is the nephew of Swapan Chaudhuri, and regulary teaches in Phoenix AZ. Good luck!

http://www.debasishchaudhuri.com/contact.htm
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