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jaan e kharabat

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Originally Posted by "omja"
now, having established this "feel" within the theka, what can i play (other than teentaal) to compliment it?
Firstly, the feel within the theka is irrelevant when it comes to solo repertoire. Secondly, you don't play tintal or some other tal but compositions in a 16 matra bhari-xali structure that traditionally has been assigned to tintal (this being the mother tal). There are no separate compositions taking into account the 'feel' of tilwada or sitarkhani, as such, but you will find plenty of material with different forms of layakari that you might like.

If you are playing sitarkhani and need a laggi or rela for a quick solo interlude, you will have to find something to use from the tintal solo repertoire as this is what 100% of traditional musicians do. Or become a maverick and make up your own repertoire specifically designed for your fav thekas. That can work too.

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lovely end to a lovely discussion.

how typically indian.............."create your own kaida"

thanks everyone, Shaanti

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omja

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i guess thats it.
thank you all for your contributions.
especially rajpuranikji who seemed to know what i was trying to do.
he gave me 2 valuable pieces of information.
first, that the age old Dehli kaida of Datit Datit Dadatit etc does meet my requirements and second, the suggestion that i write my own compositions rather than search around for a best fit.
thanks again,
omja
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deeplib77

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The kaida you are suggesting goes in to the Chatustra Jahit kaida written as follows as far as i understand.

DhaTi Tadha Tita DhaDha | Tita Dhage Tina Gina|
Tati TaTa TiTa TaTa | Tita Dhage Dhinna gina||
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fuenme

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hello Everyone and hello deeplib77,

It is totally correct to say that sitarkhani a version of tintaal is but you can use not only in tintal but in kehrwa. In this case you play one tali and one khali line the other 2 tali lines you don't need to play in kehrwa. It is possible but it depends on the mood and de cycles.

Here is the Sitarkhani Theka:

Dha - GeDhin GeDha
Dha - GeDhin GeDha
Dha - KeTin TinTa (ke)
Ta - GeDhin GeDha

the (ke) after Ta sounds nicer if you play it soft and fast to fill the gape.

The light version of this kaida is:

Dha - GeDhin GeNa
Dha - GeDhin GeNa
Dha - KeTin TinNa(ke)
Ta - GeDhin GeNa

Kehrwa version for light classical ghazals:

Dha - GeDhin GeNa
Ta - KeTin TinNa (ke)

have fun!!!
sincerely yours
Daud

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