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If he's in the Bay, there's really no reason to not come to the AACM in San Rafael and study there. It's only a BART and bus ride away, and classes meet once a week. There is no substitute for having a master like Swapan Chaudhuri teaching you, or having a beginning lesson and watching the rest of his classes until you are in one of them.

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Khitchdee, you couldn't be farther from the truth.

Rank beginner is the most vital time to get proper instruction. I'll say it again. There is no substitute for observing and learning through osmosis from a master instructor like Pandit Swapan Chaudhuri. He can take his lesson, then watch all of the master classes. It's not far at all and completely accessible through public transportation.

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He's clearly not taking it seriously. So you mention all this 30min of time he would be "wasting" traveling to an excellent education. So what I'm hearing is he would rather waste his time trying to play Tabla half-ass. If that's the case, then forget the getting ready, the 10min walk with his Tabla, the 30min BART ride to wherever and just pull up a YouTube video on how to play Tabla. That sounds like the right route based on the information given so far.

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Interesting conversation...

To satisfy the question, Bay Area is like a "Little India" You can be as resourceful there as one can be in India. Ask your friend to check on Sulekha or go to a concert and just ask. On a side note, I did not think people in Ca. survived without driving :-)

Ali Akbar College of Music is a world class institution. Just being around there, in that space is a learning experience in it self as suggested by VNO.

What intrigued me is the following:

Assuming money or logistics or time were not a constraint, what is the general thought among people when it comes to picking an instrument and a teacher?

Let us assume an adult starting out? Is it better to go to Stalwarts, Pdt's, Ust's and start with Na, Dha, etc. or start out with an average player who is a good teacher build up some very basics and then move up to Pdt. or an Ustad?

I will provide my opinion in the matter. I feel one should buy the absolute "best" instrument their pockets can afford and then go borrow some more money and go buy an instrument.
If I was in charge of charting someone's learning:
1. If I lived around AACM like school that was accessible to me any-time and I could just hang there weekdays, weekends, at-will, then I would go there from the starting no doubt. Key is to be there. Not just for the class. I mean get involved in that ecosystem.
2. If 1 was not possible, I would learn the basics from an average personality for the instrument and then move up to a Pdt. Ustad.
3. I would only take one-on-one lessons first unless the entire batch or group of students started with me. I mean all of them. Even then, I would still consider one-on-one lessons.
4. At intermediate level, I would consider group lessons
5. For advanced level, I would go back to one-on-one

Like to hear other people's thoughts.
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Hey guys

Hope you dont mind me pitching in but in my opinion I would go with a very good teacher especially if you are a beginner.

I feel you need to really get a good start to stop developing bad habits in playing as then you will have a situation later to undo incorrect finger placements etc...

In case of Khitchdee's friend as mentioned he does not seem serious and in that case would stick purely on you tube videos rather than paying for lessons as it involves someone's time and effort being wasted.

If you are really interested and have a passion then it is best to really choose a good guru / teacher right from the start and stick to them so getting a guru at high level is a must to take you through your journey of learning.
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@Khitchdee


Well its just my opinion and also about wasting trachers time its true becuase no point going to learn if its just to pass a bit of time and not too bothered. There should be some sort of aim somewhere if you want to learn.

I am trying to say even if its just a hobby its always good to have fun at the same time but also dont forget a teacher would be passing knowledge and spending good time with a student so its always best to give back by being a good student and achieve something.

Your post earlier suggests to me that your friend is not bothered thats why I agree with VNO and use youtube vidoes if your friend aint to fussed as if he has access to learn from Swapan Chaudari and not taking that opportunity then its a shame as he would be lucky also to be learning from him. Also as a beginner and a novice ots important to be taught correctly as I mentioned before so having a really good teacher is important.

I have a full time job and have a passion for tabla and I do at some extent take my learning seriously and please dont feel offended if you feel I have been serious as iam just airing my opinion and views.

Who knows if your friend decided to learn from Swapanji he may even become really intetested in the art and take more seriously so he should keep an open mind and not be too relaxed to close the option of access to a good teacher.

There should be some passion may be not seriousness but the passion can lead to many things and you can appreciate tabla more if there is a passion for that instrument, but the way you talked about your friend is that he doesnt seem bothered so if thats the case no point wasting valuable time of a teacher and also your friends money best to use youtube to learn as if you gonna pay someone to teach you always best to give back by showing some progress and willingness to learn.

Sorry khitchdee no mean to be harsh but iam sharing my views and I dont expect people to agree and respect your views too but I dont agree with them thats all.
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To the original poster:

Check out Tabla Niketan in Bay area.

http://www.tablaniketan.com/

https://www.youtube.com/user/tablaniketan
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If AACM-SRF is too far, he could transfer at MaCarthur to the Dublin line to Pleasanton , or the Fremont line to Fremont to some great instructors. Nonetheless, wherever he goes, he would definitely need some sort of a second transportation to get to the venue.
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Before I refrain from diving into this interesting debate, I'll express my own regret that I never made time to head to Marin for lessons with Swapanji while living in Oakland as a newbie tabla student. No longer in the area, I sure wish I'd taken advantage...

That said, give a call to Musician's Mall (formerly the Ali Akbar College Music Store) to inquire about instruction there or elsewhere in Oakland. It's just one stop from Ashby, and the folks there are great. I took a few months of lessons with a staff member who had studied at the College for years. Not direct from the source, but also not too far removed.

http://www.musiciansmallusa.com
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