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Hi all!

I'm working on my surbahars to get them to play as similair as possible. Both are Kanai Lal's, one sounds bassier and has slightly more volume, the other is treblier, sharper in sound, but plays like butter. I've noticed that on the first instrument the strings are running slightly higher over the upper bridge/stringguide/nut or Meru. The instrument plays a little bit harder because of the higher string action. I was wondering if this higher action is the cause of the louder volume. I know this is the case with guitars; some players prefer a higher string set-up so they can dig in a little bit harder. Are there any guys (Tony??) that can give me advice on this? I do realize though that every instrument sounds different so the difference could be in construction/etc. etc. The weight of both instruments is very similair, same wood....

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Seems to me that the string height / volumeissue would mainly apply over the tabli, not necessarily the nut. I'm no authority, by any means there. If I were the proud owner of those big babies and were going for a matched set in every regard, I'd go ahead and lower the action on the one that can take it. Be more than careful!!! Please to send some pics of those Kanaii Lals! I'm overdue for some instrument porn !!! By the by, how is the intonation comparison of the fourth string at the first fret between the two instruments ? Cheers !
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Awww... Tony: if there's one bloke qualified to be an expert it's you!!

The Kharaj-strings are amazing....very growly! My previous teacher put on a wound 1,20 mm string...you could play up to neck till the 7th or 8th fret and still be in tune! Only drawback; you could meend only from Re till Ma maximum....Now I'm studying with Bahauddin Dagar and he advised me to put on a massive bronze 1,00 mm or 0,95 mm (still experimenting) and all of a sudden I can bend from Re to komal Ni; only disadvantage: be very carefull with aplying pressure because the notes will be sharp! Offcourse you can play a halfstep lower and pre-bend the string to the right note....

The pics in your Museum section are of the "High" Surb.... That's my Baby/wife: lovely wood, lots of Low End!!! My new one is an older instrument as well , has some scars...sounds thinner...but WOW.... the way she plays...

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I can only speak from the banjo gharana but the correlation between string height at the nut AND bridge to volume is well established. The drawback is the cheese cutter action takes a while to get comfortable with as well as the limits set by string deflection vs intonation.
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Well...I took out the saw this afternoon and cut the grooves deeper...she plays extremely light ...amazing. I always needed to compensate when playing tivra Ma or Pa by adding more strenght....right now it's a more even feel overall...Plus: on the Kharaj-string the notes don't go as sharp....
Thnx Tony!!!

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" XXXXX elent" ! ! !
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