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Honey

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Honey

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Restoring my 7 string 11 taraf, which later turned out to secretly be an 8 string!
I cleaned abit of chipped varnish and poof these little wooden pegs pop out and all the sudden reveal that it was meant to be an 8 string all along.

I'm missing 4 main pegs now, Both bridges. The main bridge is an extremely odd size... I measured the old dents that the previous bridge left measures only 1.5 inches long, 0.5 inches wide (original bridge is lost in time) Anyone ever see a size of main bridge this small?

My entire sitar is 42 inches long. 18 frets in total.
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Abit of info I learned in my short time is this is a 90 year old Pakistani munda style. 8 string 11 taraf. Built at a smaller size to allow for the ability to play while standing up, or sat in your lap. (I've tested this and its absolutely perfect length for both, and I found two holes which I believe to be the old strap mount holes)

Any other info you could provide would really help. Really need help finding a bridge in that size though!
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This is a very beautiful old sitar but restoring this is a big job. Small sitar but big job.

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Can I ask you, have you done this kind of work before ? I am not so sure about polishing that brass piece and using philps screws. You would have to have the bridge made and the pegs , that is possible but do you know how to fit them ?
Did you number the frets before you took them off ? They are not interchangeable.If you did not number them then they have to be fitted again, one by one. It is possible to guess from the shape where each fret was , approximately , but not with any dergree of certainty. 

All the above is routine work for a sitarmaker. The really difficult part is restoring the decoration.
This looks like old skool to me, not strips but individual pieces. Difficult and timeconsuming to restore.

I dunno. Maybe it would be better not to restore this instrument. Or, go the whole distance and have it restored by someone who has decades of experience in this field. That will cost some money but you would end up with a playable instrument. If that is what you want.

Best of luck !

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Also, if you want to restore this to playable condition it may be necessary to disassemble the body and reglue the joints. With an instrument this old there is no telling if the body can still take the tension of the strings. Most critical is the neck joint.
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I've made two guitars before when I was 12 and 14. But I have not done any work since then. I'm 24 now.

I have not labeled the frets no, but they were barely hanging on by a few threads on a few of them. So its possible they were in wrong order to begin with.

The brass all I did was rub it with a sponge scouring pad after soaking it.  I have 3 of 4 of the original tumba mount screws.

The inlay is being made currently, I have a guy in new dehli who can do it. He made my Taus.


I do need the pegs and bridge made, I could get it fitted locally by a friend. Hes too busy to make them himself however. He has no problems fitting them.


There is nothing structurally wrong with this sitar, so restore is just inlay and pegs / bridge at this point. I've already made 2 of the replacement taraf pegs. I can fit the inlay myself, but i would prefer if another did it.

Thanks ji!
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I've checked the neck over, and the gourd its surprisingly undamaged it is very very strong.

I'll keep this in mind, and be gentle nontheless 😉


Thanks!

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Ok, sounds good !

This will be a little gem if restored properly. Given enough time, effort and money any sitar can be restored to perfection.

Best wishes, looking forward to the result !

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Please post update photos of your progress. The more the better!
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Anyone know what these holes are for? The ones in the inlay.

Equally spaced apart. Long enough to think that these were used for a strap.

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Besides the 4 missing khunti which need to be made,  and both bridges that need to be made. All the rest of repair is just inlaywork that needs doing.

In the video I highlight those interesting holes that im curious about. I'd like to know the purpose. They could be for chikari bridge perhaps for all I know?

Perhaps for the 8th and 7th string on main strings as they are quite far over.


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The holes for for chikari posts.  Easy to make and fit.
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90 year old PAKISTANI sitar ?!!?!? Is Pakistan THAT old now???
Lovely old thing & will sound great.
Have several like this too.
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All parts ordered now tumba, strings, fiberglass case, bridges made in 1920's garage style as that matches the dents in the tabli.

What tuning do normal 8 string sitars typically go for? Only other sitar I know of with 8 is Nikhil Banerjee's.
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