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ragamala

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Here's one with a definitely not complex lehra. Tabla player is? lehera player?

http://www.mediafire.com/?nnh1b4b54h1woow
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Here's the whole of that Sarwar Sabri teental. The lehra settles down a bit later! I think it's a gem, I have to admit I am not easily pleased by tabla solos. Mainly because I simply don't understand them.
Anyway, here we are - ignore the first couple of seconds which is there for technical reasons (see my post in members off-topic). Unfortunately the harmonium player is not credited.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3wtx8cx1u8aj62a
This is from the Master drummer of India album with Bundu Khani Taal, Farodast and Dadra and the harmonium player is one Vishwa Prakash. I really like both their performances. I had this CD but it seems to have disappeared so thanks for the upload!

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Here's the whole of that Sarwar Sabri teental. The lehra settles down a bit later! I think it's a gem, I have to admit I am not easily pleased by tabla solos. Mainly because I simply don't understand them.
Anyway, here we are - ignore the first couple of seconds which is there for technical reasons (see my post in members off-topic). Unfortunately the harmonium player is not credited.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3wtx8cx1u8aj62a
About tabla solos ... give this one a listen on my youtube channel (romancha pralapa is my youtube name) ... it's by the late U. Latif Ahmed Khan - one of the very best tabla players that's ever lived.



The first 3 minutes are simply free improvisation, and then the theme is announced and the rest are simply variations on that theme. It is, for me, the most perfect peshkar every produced.


(see my reply in off-topic regarding the technical reason).


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Can never get enough A. Latif Khan's playing and in such clear audio to boot! Thanks a lot! Sarwar Sabri is of similar lineage, btw.
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Here's one with a definitely not complex lehra. Tabla player is? lehera player?

http://www.mediafire.com/?nnh1b4b54h1woow

This is the late great Mahapurush Misra on tabla, and the late U. Ali Akbar Khan on Sarod. I have the cassette from many many years ago "North Indian Drums". This is a later track, but the first track is absolutely the very best. It was this rupak tal piece that largely made me fall in love with tabla. For a long time Mahapurush Misra was my favorite tabla player, but I think that place has been taken by the late U. Latif Ahmed Khan, who, to my mind, stands supremely above all others, living or dead.

this is a little video I put together with him playing Rupak Tal from this same cassette above:



(as I explain on my channel, the video is Mahapurush Misra, but not one of him playing this particular piece as there are very very few video recordings of him).


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Can never get enough A. Latif Khan's playing. Thanks a lot. Sarwar Sabri is of similar lineage.
Be sure to check the tabla forum for the last few months - search "Latif Ahmed Khan" - several excellent recordings have recently surfaced - some seldom heard before because they were on relatively obscure french vinyl records, but the others come from one of his students who uploaded several hours (!) worth of material going back to the late 80s.


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Here's one with a definitely not complex lehra. Tabla player is? lehera player?

http://www.mediafire.com/?nnh1b4b54h1woow

This is the late great Mahapurush Misra on tabla, and the late U. Ali Akbar Khan on Sarod.


Pascal
Is AAK doing a Todi lehera on the sympathetic strings?

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Here's one with a definitely not complex lehra. Tabla player is? lehera player?

http://www.mediafire.com/?nnh1b4b54h1woow

This is the late great Mahapurush Misra on tabla, and the late U. Ali Akbar Khan on Sarod.


Pascal
Is AAK doing a Todi lehera on the sympathetic strings?

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I think he is just playing very straight. I love the sound and feel of Mahaparush's playing
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I think he is just playing very straight. I love the sound and feel of Mahaparush's playing
Yeah I can hear it now, it's like : r g r S d S r S.

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jek - here is the full set of SS tracks from that cd - pw 12345 (thanks pascal for the tip)
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I found this brief explanation in "42 lessons for tabla" by Keramatullah Khan ...

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4877/lehararule2.jpg

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Two points:

1) The four examples given more or less conform to the first rule discussed earlier with regards to the first vibhag.

2) While perhaps an obvious point, the explanation above also suggest that the structure of the lehara, at least for tintal, should reflect the 4 fold division of tintal. It's not enough simply to show where sam is, but it must also show indicate where the vibhags are, and quite possibly should indicate where the khali vighag vs. the bhari vibhag. So the melodic outline can't simply wander off somewhere and then simply return to sam.


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Indeed, one can imagine the lehera working to perform the same function as does the theka for an instrumentalist. At any point you can listen to a portion of the theka and know where in the cycle you are, the same goes for the lehera, drop in at any point and within a few matras you should be able to pick up the taal.
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