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gauhar

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Hi,

Can anyone tell me what's a "Jat taal" and if possible,how to check it,ie it's couting system.

will greatly help if i can get any egs.
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Annakai

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Hi Gauhar, Good Question!
Jat taal seems to be one of those lesser-known taals, and is usually concidered to be 16, 12, or 8 matras. I honestly dont know much about it, but I'll share with you what I do know. I am more familiar with the Jat taal of 8 matras, and it is Chatasra Jati. Jati is the category-the group. There are five Jatis:
Shankima ( 9 counts or multiple of 9)
Misra (7 or multiple of)
Khanda (5 or multiple of)
Chatasra (4 or multiple of)
Tisra (3 or multiple of) ... it is Chatasra, a group of four counts

here is the theka:

Dha Dhin | Dhadha Tin | Na Tin | Dhadha Dhin
(clap, clap, wave, clap)
I would love to know more, hopefully a more learned player will expand upon this.
I hope this makes sense and I really do hope it helps.

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Annakai

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I was looking through a reference book by Aloke Dutta (I do not have the title page, but I believe the name is Tabla: Lessons and Practice) and I stumbled across an explination of Jat taal. This information is according to his gharana, Farukhabad, and in this text, Jat taal is a 16-matra tala.

and this is what is says ...

The vilambit laya Jat theka is played with thumri (light classical vocal):

Dha - - - | - - Te Te | Dhin - - - | - - Te Te
Dha - - - |Dha - Dha Dha | Tun - - - | - - Te Te
Na - - - | - - Te Te | Tun - - - | - - Te Te
Dha - - - | Dha - Dha Dha | Dhin - - - | Dha - Tet -

The madhya laya Jat theka is played with tappa, another form of vocal:
( - = 1/2 matra)

Dha - | Dhin - | Dha Dha | Tun -
Na - | Tun - | Dha Dha | Dhin -


I guess which ever one is relevent to your need, or if none are, depends on your useage - instrumental? vocal? gharana? This is a great example of the importance of a guru, written text is very rarely sufficient. :roll:
Books, books, books, ... can be so confusing. They get me all the time.
Anyway, I hope I didnt just blow that out of the water... :?

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sim90

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Amazing.... never heard of this taal
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gauhar

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Hi Annakai,

thnx for the info.
I am new to this forum.I am not a tabla player but a dancer.I came across this taal when I was listening to Bade Ghulam Ali khan.
I was trying to catch the taal but it was a little tricky for me and I couldn't get the info I wanted anywhere,so I posted it here.
thnx a lot.
i will let u know if I am able to work thing out the next time I hear it.

Gauhar
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Vansh Prabhat

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About the jatt taal..it is one of the variant of teentaal and is of 16 beats. It is usually used during thumri singing.
As I know it, it goes like this
x 2 3 4 5 6. 7 8 o 10 11 12 13
Dha S dhin S| Dha dha dhin S | Ta S tin S | Dha
14 15 16
dha dhin S
The 'x' stands for "sum" or the confluence point or the origin/first beat and the 'o' stands for "khaali" and the 'S' stands for one unit pause. The more number of the 'S' the more we have to pause. Here in Jatt taal one second's pause is taken.
Rest the clap and wave system is the same as teentaal.
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