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mpnikhil

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I happened to come across this sitar that has no badge but the previous owner had kept notes about the instrument that say that this is a Hiren Roy from the 70s. The sound is rich and beautiful. But is it a vintage Hiren Roy? IMG_1962-1.jpg IMG_1967-1.jpg IMG_1972-1.jpg IMG_1974-1.jpg IMG_1975-1.jpg
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You have to post better and more detailed pictures for people to judge this.
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mpnikhil

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Hi barend, these are the only ones I got from the owner. I should have taken pictures when I saw it but I couldn't stay long.
These are very high resolution though. If you click on them I think you could zoom in and see details.
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Hi barend, these are the only ones I got from the owner. I should have taken pictures when I saw it but I couldn't stay long.
These are very high resolution though. If you click on them I think you could zoom in and see details.


Ok I didn’t know you had to click on them. I am no Hiren Roy expert by any means but I have seen many pictures. There are other people who know this better. But it looks really nice and my gut feeling says this one is a genuine Hiren Roy. But wait for the others to chime in. I don’t know about the asking price but if it has no badge you should get a discount.
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Thanks Barend. Appreciate your reply. There are two pin holes where the badge should be. Looking at the other vintage Hiren Roys they look too close together for the white badge but may be are a close fit for the smaller black badge. Carving looks good too but the leaves on the tumba seem to be separating from the neck area a little bit. 

Let me attach the pictures as attachments, perhaps that will be better.

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jpeg IMG_1967-1.jpg (139.58 KB, 12 views)
jpeg IMG_1972-1.jpg (123.62 KB, 12 views)
jpeg IMG_1974-1.jpg (130.50 KB, 10 views)
jpeg IMG_1975-1.jpg (116.42 KB, 7 views)

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mpnikhil

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Well, attachment looks the same so better view here.

https://ibb.co/jRp7DsV
https://ibb.co/Wz2Jvys
https://ibb.co/dgZKDYw
https://ibb.co/9pQ0t70
https://ibb.co/ZYGQXHy

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I don't think it is a Hiren Roy. 
Hiren Roy badges go from edge to edge, with pins out toward the edge.

Given the badge pin holes, it might be made by Naskar.
That isn't necessarily a bad thing, as Naskar made some really nice sitars. 
I have two. 

That tabli carving design is similar to Hiren Roy, but that tabli design/look was used by a variety of makers.
I think it looks like a decent sitar, so depending on the price, and it sounds and plays well, it could be a good buy. 
I wouldn't pay Hiren Roy prices for it though. 
Naskars dont usually fetch the Hiren Roy prices.

Here is a shot of the badge area of my two Naskars. 
One shows the badge, the other shows without badge so you can reference the holes. 


Naskar-Badge.jpg  Naskar-NoBadge.jpg

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Hemen used a narrow badge too, and occasionally used that same tabli design. 
I think the width of the Naskar badge is a better fit, but without checking out the sitar in person, these are just guesses. 
That is a Hemen badge, and a Hemen tabli. 

Photos were referenced from http://www.RainCityMusic.com


Hemen 1.jpg  Hemen-Tabli.jpg


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Thanks for you valuable inputs! The black badge seems like a likely candidate? May be they are still too close for the black badge as well. (Image sourced from sitarsencat)

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The black label pins look too wide for those holes.
The Naskar badge fits the pin holes. 

Then again my guesses are just guesses. 
As I go back and look there are a lot of things that are right on the sitar you posted. 
It could be a Hiren Roy.

The thing that keep me thinking "no" are the pin holes.
Why would they be there, like that?
There are no other holes on the badge area.

The general coloring scheme seems a bit off for HR, but that could just be lighting, photographic, or image adjust to make it more clear. 
The carving is pretty good, and the design is very HR, but I am not sure it is as clean as other HR I have seen. 

That is a toughie. 
I see they want Hiren Roy prices, so it is a gamble.
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By the way, did you get to play it?
How did it sound?
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mpnikhil

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Sound sample

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Eftod4d8ULtGtXE8
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In which picture do you see the holes? I don’t see them.
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mpnikhil

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What would be a fair price for this sitar? Does not come with a cover or a case.
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mpnikhil

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@barend, if you zoom in the first picture that shows the full sitar, you can see the pin holes.
https://ibb.co/jRp7DsV
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