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Blind Lemon Mike

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Hey there, 

last week I came across this Hiren Roy Instrumental Tanpura on a local small ad for what translates to 200  Dollar. So i bought it. Not that i need it, but it is nice and rather affordable...(Fiberclass-Case was included)

The seller was a singer, who did not know much about Indian Classical Music but collected all sorts of Instruments from travelling and told me she bought this in a store near San Francisco, so i assume this is from the Ali Akbar Khan College Store. 

1. It is in pretty good condition, although on the backside it has laquer problems. It is sort of a grey veil, combined with a few scatches. What are those laquers based on, shellac? How do you treat this kind of thing. Is there a way for you to DIY? What kind of products or method is the way to go? 

2. Jawari is still ok but the strings need replacement. What are common Gauges for this Style of Instrumental Tanpuras? I will probably tune it to D or slightly below, most of the time. 

3. As i did some research, apparently Hiren Roy does not make any sort of Tanpuras anymor for quite some time now. Does anybody know what might be the year of production of this thing. I have seen this kind Label on Instruments from Hiren Roy, to Himangshu, to even early Barun Instruments. Are there other things that tell you the year? 


thanks for any tipps and tricks.  IMGP3626.jpg  IMGP3628.jpg  IMGP3631.jpg  IMGP3630.jpg

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Lars

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It's at least 15 years old. The finish is shellac and unfortunately most of the time their finish was very soft and needed work. If you want to try and correct it yourself you can google french polishing techniques and go from there or take/send it to someone who knows how to do it. The greyish haze could be moisture in the finish, sometimes you can get that out with a hair dryer but keep in mind that shellac becomes malleable at 130 degrees Fahrenheit so it can turn into a bigger mess quickly (like in seconds!). So best to approach it carefully.

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Blind Lemon Mike

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thanks a lot Lars... 

i will carefully try out the Hair dryer trick and otherwise i might read into french polishing. I wante to make shure that it is indeed a shellac finish. 

could you recommend string gauges for instrumental tanpuras? 

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Michael
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Ingo

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Hi Michael,


on my small tampura, speaking length of string ~ 78 cm,
were Pa 0,41 steel Sa's 0.30, low Sa brass 0,51 (chinese calipher, measures approx.). Was used in C# when I bought it, it takes D, but that is maximum pressure with very good sound, so the steel Sa's have a hard life.

Greets, Ingo
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Blind Lemon Mike

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thanks Ingo, what about the extra fifth string. Would you chosse a gauge closer to Pa or to the high steel Sa's ?


I think the grey haze seems indeed to be moisture. I tried it out with the hair dryer. While it indeed seems to work, i also melted a very small part, and then immediately stopped the process. Too risky for me. The sweetspot seems to be very small. If I'm not close enough it' not a risk of damaing it anymore but also i will not have any effect. I consider bringing it to a specialist but for the time beeing i think i will leave it as it is. It's on the backside and not really not that bad and visible . 

kind regards 
Michael
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I don't have my chart info with me in India at the moment. I believe from memory it's .014 steel/.012 steel X 2/ .0225 bronze. I can confirm when back, maybe someone else here can confirm also.

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Lars has it right. Just make it .012x3 as it is a five stringer.
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