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mtalmtal

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Hello everyone. I'm enjoying all the great posts from all of you and am learning a lot. Thank you!

There's a palta that's part of a tintal rela that I love and want to expand on or find out what it's a part of:

dhatere ketedhin natere ketetaka
tatere ketedhin natere ketetaka
(read more easily as dha terekete dhinna tereketetaka, khali)

It's got a sweet groove to it.

And speaking of relas, anyone have variations on Ustad Allah Rakha's rela:

dhatere ketetaka terekete dhenegene
tatere ketetaka terekete dhenegene

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
mtalmtal
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hbajpai

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I am not sure what you are asking or seeking. Variations of Kaida Rela are not any different than a kaida generally speaking. Depending on how long and fast you want to play the piece generally determines the type of variations one selects. Of course the mood also determines the types of variations one selects.

Try dohra, half dohra and jump into ulat/palat (Transpositions) and end with a tihai.
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mtalmtal

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Thanks for the reply. I guess the challenge I'm having is that I feel the main theme of the rela is short compared to other kaidas and I'm not sure if I'm structuring it right. Let me post what I think is the right way to go about this and tell me what you think. I won't write in matras for now. Please forgive any mistakes in notation.

Dhaterekete dhinnatereketetaka
Taterekete dhinnatereketetaka

Dhatrkt dhinnatrktataka x 2
Dhatrkt dhinnatrktataka Tatrkt dhinnatrktataka
khali

Dhatrkt dhatrkt dhatrkt dhatrkt dhatrktataka
Dhatrkt dhinnatrktatak Tatrkt dhinnatrktataka
khali

Dhatrkt dhinnatrktataka dha S takatrktataka
Dhatrkt dhinnatrktataka Tatrkt dhinnatrktataka
khali

takatrktataka takatrktataka takatrktataka takatrktataka
Dhatrkt dhinnatrktataka Tatrkt dhinnatrktataka
khali


And for the other rela: Dhaterekete takaterekete dhenegene Taterekete takaterekete dhenegene

Dhatrkt takatrkt dhenegene x 2
Dhatrkt taktrkt dhenegene Tatrkt takatrkt dhenegene
khali

Dhatrkt Dhatrkt Dhatrkt Dhatrkt Dhatrktataka
Dhatrkt takatrkt dhenegene Taterekete takatrkt dhenegene
khali

Dhatrktataka x 4
Dhatrkt takatrkt dhenegene Taterekete takatrkt dhenegene
khali

What other variations can I do with this? Am I structuring these correctly?

Thanks,
mtal
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souvik-tabla

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first let me tell you that what you are composing is not a rela but a Punjab Gharana Kaida..

I can teach you the Authentic Kaida properly with authentic vistAArs. hope you understand what i mean. and this is just not a beginner's kaida. It may be short but that does not make it that simple..

Besides, your variations are difficult to understand because without matra, the cycle [avartan] cannot be made. So one cannot say right or wrong and also as to which beat cycle - I mean tala it belongs to...

Check my official page: https://sites.google.com/site/souvikdattain/

Online tabla learning site: https://sites.google.com/site/learningtabla/

Best wishes,

Souvik

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(Percussionist, Composer and Tabla Trainer)
0091-96745-27348 (Mobile)
Skype: tabla-taalim
Official Webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/learningtabla/
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Originally Posted by "hbajpai"
I am not sure what you are asking or seeking. Variations of Kaida Rela are not any different than a kaida generally speaking. Depending on how long and fast you want to play the piece generally determines the type of variations one selects. Of course the mood also determines the types of variations one selects.

Try dohra, half dohra and jump into ulat/palat (Transpositions) and end with a tihai.
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mtalmtal

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thanks for the response. i'll be more careful about notation in the future.

i would be interested in learning the kaida properly. i'll check out your website. thanks.

-mtalmtal
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souvik-tabla

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Most welcome you are..
Best Wishes
Souvik

============================================
Souvik Datta
(Percussionist, Composer and Tabla Trainer)
0091-96745-27348 (Mobile)
Skype: tabla-taalim
Official Webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/learningtabla/
============================================
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Originally Posted by "mtalmtal"
thanks for the response. i'll be more careful about notation in the future.

i would be interested in learning the kaida properly. i'll check out your website. thanks.

-mtalmtal
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