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Greg

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Actually Fosse, I think the main bridge is delrin, and is not what I would call "deeply grooved", just "grooved". I tried to take a picture of it but the grooves wouldn't really show up. The guy I bought the sitar from said he did his own jawari so I assume it had been done fairly recent to that. The taraf bridge is bone but is groove free. Would a new main bridge still be in order, or can I carefully remove the grooves... :?:

Also of strange interest is that the bridge legs are very short, would this be something to do with the fact that there has previously been a wider bridge fitted further back?

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Tough to answer without detailed pix. Does the bridge fit onto the tabli with some accuracy? Is the angle of the jawari to the tabli (and to the string) correct? These are things pix would clarify, once the bridge has been re-installed.

As for the jawari itself, personally I would not attempt to improve it. For me, jawari is the one thing on a sitar where I say "if it is broken, don't fix it". I leave that to the jawari-meister also known as "Tone", Tony Karasek or "Sitarfixer". I would recommend you do the same - if you make the jawari worse (a distinct possibility!!) you will loose the use of this sitar entirely. So keeping this bridge as is would be the wise thing to do here until a better bridge is in hand IMHO.

Once you have restrung, take some pix of the main bridge from different angles, measure the bridge in all directions, measure the height of the bridge from the tabli, and the height of the MA string (baj) at the 12th fret.

Then, depending on a professional opinion from Tone, once he has all of this information in hand, I probably would have him make an entire new wood and delrin main bridge (based on what you are saying here).

Once he ships the new main bridge to you, you will still have to fit the bridge to the tabli at the correct angle and height which is quite enough for any of us mere mortals to achieve. At least you will still have the current bridge in hand to back you up. Since the tabli is curved, getting the bridge legs to mount onto the curved surface of the tabli (at the correct bridge placement position to keep the frets in tune based on the height of the bajtar at the 12th fret) requires careful work on the bottom of the wooden legs, done a little at a time: once you cut too much or at the wrong angle you can toss the bridge. I would trust myself with this task in a pinch but not with "improving" the jawari. This is based on my personal experience in ruining 4 bridges where I was "improving" the jawari....... some things are better left to specialists.
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Thanks once again Fosse, all jawari advice taken on board, will restring and go from there. Next thing will be the brass rod to protect tabli face. I've had a closer look and some material will have to be removed to accommodate the rod, the leaf actually protrudes fractionally above the tabli in places.... but I have the necessary triangular file...! I will have a measure up to see what might work best.

In the meantime, here's the paint job, I have to say it looks better in "real life"....

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/Greg12fr/sitar%20repair/th_Photo1051_zps7a351569.jpg

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/Greg12fr/sitar%20repair/th_Photo1057_zpsda9669dd.jpg

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Looks like a tidy job.......shame you didn't round the ends of the brass posts over with a needle file for a nice rounded edge (you could probably still do it if you are careful).
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Looks like a tidy job.......shame you didn't round the ends of the brass posts over with a needle file for a nice rounded edge (you could probably still do it if you are careful).
Thanks Mark, I did think about it...I'm still thinking about the protective brass rod but I'm getting impatient and may just go for the restring...

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Well, nearly six weeks after the event, she has now been strung and tuned for about 24 hours, and is sounding marvellous. The total cost of the repair was
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Good news! Well done.
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Congratulations. Nice work. GF
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Ya nailed it ! Three cheers ! ! !
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Huzzah!!!

'grats Greg.
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Great news dude!! can't wait to hear it-we should have a session soon
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Just an update, been a while now since the repair and all is well, no apparent movement from the new langot pins, sitar holds tuning well, the full restring has meant that the strings are spread across the langot pins evenly and tuning is much easier than it was before....did a gig a week or so back and managed to create some interest among those of indian origin that were listening , so much so that we have been asked back....


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Good on ya ! ! !
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Thanks for the update. Now that it has lasted this long the presumption would be you are good for the entire life of the instrument with this repair. The only caution would be to avoid ever dropping the sitar directly on the new langot pins which would always be a no-no anyway. I am very happy this turned out so well for you......... GF
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Good news Greg.
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