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Betaji

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Personally, I find it difficult to play this phrase at top speed, for example
drut lay or like a laggi. I find it easier to increase my speed comfortably
when I substitute the first NA to TI, thus changing the phase to become
GEGE TITE GEGE TINA

1. Am I doing the right thing?
2. Are there some kaidas that would bend the rule,
e.g. DHADHA to become perhaps DHAGE
NADHA to become TIDHA

This could be an interesting thread.

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TablaBeatz

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For first exercise try:

Gege Tita Gege NaNa
Keke Tita Keke NaNa

It takes many many years and practice to get this super fast and super clean !
Good luck!

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how do you play the tite?

delhi or purab?
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how do you play the tite?

delhi or purab?
I believe it's Delhi - middle finger then index finger on the syhai.

But I'm sure you can also do traditional tete

But I was taught the Delhi method - easier for faster speed I believe

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It takes many many years and practice to get this super fast and super clean !
Good luck!
There are many compositions that have this special quality...

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Betaji

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Hi Greg,

Could you please post a few examples that have this
characteristics.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by "Betaji"
Personally, I find it difficult to play this phrase at top speed, for example
drut lay or like a laggi. I find it easier to increase my speed comfortably
when I substitute the first NA to TI, thus changing the phase to become
GEGE TITE GEGE TINA

1. Am I doing the right thing?
2. Are there some kaidas that would bend the rule,
e.g. DHADHA to become perhaps DHAGE
NADHA to become TIDHA

This could be an interesting thread.

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I'm certainly not qualified to give anything resembling a definitive answer to either questions. I do have a guess about the second question, and I would guess that there are probably no kaidas that "bend the rule" in your suggested way simply because I have the impression that rules governing formation of variations from a kaida theme are very strict - especially the one that disallows the introduction of bols in a variation that are not in the theme.

However, I would guess that a kaida that has "dha dha" in its theme is likely to have "ge" and "ti" as well. If that's the case, there's no point is supposing that "dha dha" can be substituted with "dha ge", since a variation is simply free to contain "dha ge" as part of whatever phrases it contains. In that sense the question is more or less moot.

Two questions I do have: what exactly governs how fast a kaida is meant to be played? Are kaidas ever meant to be played as fast as relas?


Pascal

post script: If I interpret a very old post correctly, it would appear that my guess above may be off track. Consider the following post from several years ago where it seems that a composition has different bols according to whether it is single speed or double speed, but see for yourself if I read that correctly:

http://forums.chandrakantha.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1460&start=60#p8145

PB

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Two questions I do have: what exactly governs how fast a kaida is meant to be played? Are kaidas ever meant to be played as fast as relas?
In my humble opinion, it is a matter of aesthetics. Some kaidas sound better fast and some slower, I feel some performers simply play too fast such that the beauty of the composition being played is lost.

Betaji, you missed the irony (yes and gentle sarcasm?!) of my answer, all tabla compositions have the characteristics of taking years to master and get "superfast and super clean"...dheredhere and dhinegene being good examples. Zakir-ji is often quoted as saying that he is still working for a good Na sound...!!!

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Zakir-ji is often quoted as saying that he is still working for a good Na sound...!!!

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Oh dear - where does that leave me!

Good points Greg!

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