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mike hooker

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i'm killing myself trying to grasp the mechanics of jawari. a big part of jawari is the amount of physical contact between the string and the bridge. is closed jawari more contact, or less contact? does greater contact transfer more " buzz" energy to the bridge, sounding open, or does less contact allow the string to " buzz " more freely, sounding open? i seem to be learning that "more contact is open", which at first i thought was wrong( and maybe it is?). also, the slope on the far side of the bridge seems to be just as important the front, but i cant see why . is the angle of a guitar string after the nut important to the sound of guitar? the front slope is important to have similar string contact no matter the fret position( string angle). but the back slope? does that effect the surface pressure of the string on the bridge? ii'm trying to get a jawari on my surbuhar for good sustain, not much " buzz" . i need help, please.

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element-82

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Mike,
If you want to add sustain, try working the back side where the string slot is and make sure you have good contact with the string. My opinion is that the flatter the eliptical curve the more buzz, the more arched the more closed and bright. It is hard to describe but easy to show
I went for half closed on my surbahar.

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i'm killing myself trying to grasp the mechanics of jawari. a big part of jawari is the amount of physical contact between the string and the bridge. is closed jawari more contact, or less contact? does greater contact transfer more " buzz" energy to the bridge, sounding open, or does less contact allow the string to " buzz " more freely, sounding open? i seem to be learning that "more contact is open", which at first i thought was wrong( and maybe it is?). also, the slope on the far side of the bridge seems to be just as important the front, but i cant see why . is the angle of a guitar string after the nut important to the sound of guitar? the front slope is important to have similar string contact no matter the fret position( string angle). but the back slope? does that effect the surface pressure of the string on the bridge? ii'm trying to get a jawari on my surbuhar for good sustain, not much " buzz" . i need help, please.

thanks

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Dear Friends

The more friction on the string the more buzz (the more open the jawari) and the sustain is reduced through this "buzzing" sound. That is why closed or "bhandh" bridge jawari's has a longer sustain; there is no friction to slow down the vibration of the string. Remember, unlike a guitar, the sitar bridge is very long; the more of the string that rests on the bridge, the more closed the sound; and because ALL of the string rests on the bridge there is less friction than in an open jawari. The more the bridge is shaved (tilted down - lower closer to the neck) down the more buzz, and because of physics and you have what we call and open sound on the sitar. Somewhere in between is the percentage "number" - closed or open, I like mine 100% closed; meaning ALL of the string rests on the bridge. Sometimes, you can have it closed 100%, but increase the buzz for the thicker strings (by shaping the bridge) which already have a longer sustain than the thiner ones (and one may want more of a "buzz" from them).
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mike hooker

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i'm working llike a dog, and cant get past a very buzzy jawari. if that bridge was flat, would it buzz or be very closed? thanks
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Jawari style/sound, whether open or closed is determined according to how much bridge space is left when the string leaves the surface to go to the frets. If it's more than a few mill, say 5 or 6, then it'll be 'open' or buzzy. But a closed Jawari will need attention quicker as it's eating into the bridge in a smaller area.

I did a jawari on a kharaj sitar this morning & found slightly 'tipping' the bridge backwards (towards where the strings are attached at the bottom) allowed me to reduce the jawari area without actually wearing the jawari surface down. I carefuly re-sanded the feet but this needs very specialised practise & is not recommended unless you have spare bridges. I managed a slightly open jawari that made a great change to the sitar as it had a horrible buzzy noise previously.

BTW I had my 'old Brownie's' bridge off & a new synthetic one made. Definately made a great sound!!!

Nick
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element-82

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Think of it as a arch/curve. If you have less curve it will be buzzy. Flat would probably just sound bad, far too open. One approach is to have a bump in the middle tapering gradually to the back and to the front. This bump has to be the same across the whole bridge for now. You need good contact with the string at the back and especially at the front for closed.

btw there will never be a final word on jawari
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i'm working llike a dog, and cant get past a very buzzy jawari. if that bridge was flat, would it buzz or be very closed? thanks

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