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ok, no hard feelings. We are both convinced in our believes. I am also done with this topic. At least I got inspired by Ravi's playing again and got some new ideas for the hooks.
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Found em ! Cripes - look at that hair on my head ! Hard to imagine now ! ! That sitar had such Mojo. Holding the neck was like holding somebodies arm ! ! !

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Here's a few more. What a party !

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Great pics! nice 70's mustache
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Forget the cheezy moustache. How bout that sitar ! ? !
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Forget the cheezy moustache. How bout that sitar ! ? !
Speechless here. These pics have left me lost in silent meditation.
Awesome!

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Those carvings on the back of the toomba look ridiculous...
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Disregarding the pickguard deco, that last photo has a distinct Hiren feel. Not saying it is a Hiren, just that there is similarity in the tabli deco. (also in the last shot is the taraf bridge missing or tucked under the main bridge.

And I say forget the mustache - how about those shorts!

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Hey, Povster. These pics are of the "Monteray" sitar on occasions that I worked on it. That last pic with no taraf bridge is due to it having no taraf strings or pegs on at that moment. The fret job was about 1/2 way through. Chikari pegs are also off. The "ridiculous" tumba carving on the sitar with Raviji is the Nodu Mullick sitar that was the Brother to the "fish hook" trim sitar that Anoushka had on stage for awhile until the Airlines took it down. Shorts and 'T' shirt - the dress code for years on end living there. Even today, real shoes with socks drives me nuts. It's a S. California thing. Must be !
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The thing that got me in these photos is how small the sitar looks in Tony's hands.
When Raviji plays it, it looks massive, because of his small size.
When I met Raviji I was surprised by how tiny he was.
His charm and personality makes him seem much larger on film etc.
It is an amazing sitar.

I am guessing that this is the headstock of the same sitar.
http://www.karaseksound.com/ShowBigPic.php?ID=IMG0090

Tony, Your description of the sitar had the following:
"Mr. Nodu Mullick made this instrument especially for Pandit Ravi Shankar from a Kanai Lal Sitar sometime around 1960. The tabli was enlarged with a flatter surface shape to enhance the mid-range and bass notes. The neck was widened to 3 5/8" for additional note range from laterally pulled strings (meend)."

I was wondering... If the tabli was enlarged and the neck widened, it would seem to suggest that they were replaced outright. If the tabli is enlarged, did they have to replace the toomba too in order to accommodate the enlarged tabli?
Once you replace the Tabli, toomba, and neck, isn't it a completely different sitar? It just intrigued me. I would love to know what Nodu actually did.


As for the ongoing argument over Raviji's string hooks... Who are you going to listen to...The guy who thinks he hears something on a record, or the guy who held that sitar in his hand and worked on the frets himself...case closed...
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Good question regarding the rebuild. As Nodubhai had a very close association with the Kanai Lal shop, I imagine there would have been a fair amount of collaboration between Raviji, Nodubhai and the shop at the time the instrument was being designed and built. Those details I don't have unfortunately. Raviji had told me there was quite a heated discussion about that tabli. Making it flatter to Ravijis spec would lose the high end, that "sweet sitar sound" which was Nodubhais warning and pitch for a more conventional shape. Since Raviji wanted more of a sur-Baharesque sound ( unbeatable for low end alap ), that's what the end result was. Wish I had opened my mouth more when we were all sitting in the shop. An afternoon at the Kanai Lal shop with Nodu Mullick and Z M Dagar. What a day that was !!!
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Wow, an afternoon sitting with Nodu Mullick at the Kanai Lal shop is an unbelievable thing.
It must be one of your most cherished moments.
That is the real deal.
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I'm not a fan of conflict, but its been respectfully and responsibly handled by both sides here. Above all I applaud the passionate search for sound on both sides of this debate. Mostly, I'm loving this discussion for the rare photo gems its unearthed from the sands of time and Tony's closet. Honestly, thanks for digging them up and sharing them.
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