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gatabera

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Hey guys,

I have a tabla that is in B flat. If I were to accompany a vocalist or instrumentalist what pitch would they have to play in or sing in? I really don't want to mess with retuning the drum, so just want to see what setting Bflat is normally played in. Thanks.
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tablaplayer

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Well, most female vocalists sing somewhere between G sharp to B flat. Male vocalists usually sign between C to D sharp. However, it really depends on the person. I would call and ask the person you are scheduled to play with about which pitch he/ she is going to be signing with. Sometimes, depending on the song, the pitch may change. Unless you have a couple tablas at your disposal, it will be impossible to not tweak the tuning.
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Terry1234

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Most of the time people sing at C sharp. In my experience anyway.
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gatabera

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Ok I was fooling around on my electric organ, and I did see that C# and B flat sound pretty ok together, so theoretically if a sitar player or any other instrumentalist played in this key I should be fine right?
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Normally, it is no big deal to tune the tabla half to one sur up or down. For instance, my Kali 1 tabla is able to go up half a sur quite easily. Most female vocalists would sing either in safed 5 or kali 4. Most male vocalists would sing in Kali 1 or Kali 2. Some rare artists such as Pt Kumar Gandharva sang in a much higher pitch (we call that "Pilitis Pitch" in India ). I am sure your Bflat tabla can be lowered a sur, but I doubt if you can raise it to a Kali 1. The pudi might go "Phut".

Most good vocalists or instrumentalists would never tolerate a mistuned tabla. Trained musicians have a very high frequency resolution. One top notch vocalist that I know goes hopping mad if the tabla is out of tune even by a fraction, hardly perceptible to even "trained" ears, so beware.
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gatabera

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Originally Posted by "pumpik"
Normally, it is no big deal to tune the tabla half to one sur up or down. For instance, my Kali 1 tabla is able to go up half a sur quite easily. Most female vocalists would sing either in safed 5 or kali 4. Most male vocalists would sing in Kali 1 or Kali 2. Some rare artists such as Pt Kumar Gandharva sang in a much higher pitch (we call that "Pilitis Pitch" in India ). I am sure your Bflat tabla can be lowered a sur, but I doubt if you can raise it to a Kali 1. The pudi might go "Phut".

Most good vocalists or instrumentalists would never tolerate a mistuned tabla. Trained musicians have a very high frequency resolution. One top notch vocalist that I know goes hopping mad if the tabla is out of tune even by a fraction, hardly perceptible to even "trained" ears, so beware.
What is Kali 1, 2, 4 and Safed 5?
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pumpik

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Kali = Black and Safed = White on the keyboard or harmonium. Safed 1 is C.

However note that the keyboard and harmonium are tuned to the Equi-tempered western scale and not to the Natural (or Just Intonation) scale of Indian Classical Music. The musician that you are going to accompany is trained in the natural scale.
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My 6" Bina tabla is tuned to Bb...

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