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gillo

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Is there any device that can solve this? a preamp, a DI box, a mixer?
Yes, a mic!

But, seriously, this is a problem with all pickups: it's very primitive technology that just doesn't produce good sound.
Even the very best pickups I've used only (Schatten, Schertler) only sound as good as a mediocre, low-end dynamic mic - and then under only the very best conditions.
Usually, in normal, poor live conditions, they sound much worse.

So in general I would go as far as you can with a good feedback resistance dynamic mic an then only fallback on a pickup if there's absolutely no other way to eliminate the feedback.
The Meyer is a mic, for some reason it is referred to as a pickup, and so it should be good for this application. It is a small diaphragm condenser mic with a battery power source that comes out at a 1/4"jack (strange but true). I would prefer a scd that came to xlr.

I'm not sure why the acoustic amp is not giving enough volume - it shouldn't be plugged into the first input as that is for piezo type pickup - I would try it in the other inputs, even with an adapter into the xlr input. I have never really liked how acoustic amps have worked and have always preferred the mic straight into a mixer (with decent preamps) into powered speakers.
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If you want a great pre amp/eq this is by far the best for the money which can also me used as a DI
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/7603
thanks, the first one looks looks nice. For something that can be used on stage how would this compare?
https://secure.schertler.com/en_IT/shop/preamps-and-di/yellowsingle
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Heya,

You can use the unit on stage and in the studio, it has a sound quality comparable to $2000-$3000 units. I find it more musical than the neve.

i dont have experience with the unit you posted so I cant comment on how it sounds but it will function but at that price range I would get 7603, you will love it.
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I have been using the Fishman Platinum preamp together with the Myers Condensor mic placed right under the main bridge and if the EQ is done right you can get a halfway decent sound -- with great care on mixer EQ you can almost get a loud "almost acoustic" sound.


I play with amplified guitars regularly, thus I have no choice but to do this -- 

Here are some examples of how it works in a live, very bass-heavy mix. I can take this recording and reduce the bass to make the sitar much more visible :



Here is a different EQ setup is done outdoors where without amplification the sitar would be invisible
Sitar solos at 4:30 and a longer one 6:40



Here is a version after clean up after recording and reducing bass a little where you can hear the taraf response quite often:



or this is a post-mix of the first Youtube track with less bass:



I would love to figure out if I can get even more sustain or sometimes boost my volume when the band gets really loud to play a solo that is more visible.


Also, does anybody have any opinion on the Fishman DEQ which looks like it might allow a few more tricks in the amplified setting?







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I am thinking of upgrading my Pre-amp from the Fishman Platinum and I wonder if people have an opinion on the higher end Fishman or the L R Baggs ones shown below; Is there really any point to it or will it be basically as good as the one I have now?

https://www.fishman.com/products/series/platinum/platinum-pro-eq-analog-preamp/

This is one that is also getting really good reviews: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0089EUZ4A?tag=gr-23-20


https://www.gearank.com/gear/lr-baggs-session-di

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