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SitarMac

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Hey y'all-
So I'm dedicating a full day to recording cleanup and such and I decided to try and get the reel to reel player set up so I could see what was on a couple of these reels that were in the R2R box.

What a surprise. For all of you who don't know, I inherited a bunch of stuff while cleaning and packing a lot of my teachers stuff up in prepeeration for his year long (maybe more...) jaunt to India. A ton of cassettes and a box of reel to reel tapes and an old, dusty reel to reel tape machine.

So I thoroughly cleaned the R2R with air duster, cleaner, and some polish. I cleaned the heads and got it all ready to go. As I was clening it, I noticed a sticker behind the empty catch reel......Its one of those kinda' labeling stickers that you made with that gun like machine that pressed and raised the letter that you were choosing when you squeezed the press trigger. Those of you familiar with the 70's will know what I'm talking about. Oh yeah....I get side tracked........The sticker simply says

"A.A.Khan"

So I have to believe that I'm using one of MAestro Ali Akbar Khan's old R2R machine......It make sense since my teacher is one of his desciples......What a treasure!!! Wouldn't you say? Although I figure Alam or Manik will hit me up for it at some point, but its fun to have a piece of his electronics in my house.......

OK-After the excitement of what I had wore off, I went to task trying to figure out how to make it work. I'd seen these in movies and old TV shows....But man, I just couldn't figure it out.......After about 1 1/2, i think that I've got it....The reels play smoothely, but I might still be doing something not quite right.....But its working.


THE RESULT:
I am listening to the tape as I write this. Its Nikhil-Da's Megh that is available on CD....But something sounds so different and warm from this tape.....Just beautiful to hear it this way.....And only about 1/20th of the reel is used....AND....I just realized that there are 2 tracks on this tape , so when I'm done listening to one track, its rewind and listen to the other.....There must be 20 hours of music on this reel..........

If anyone has any knowledge of TEAC 2300S and how to thread the machine correctly....All help is appreciated!

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Yahoooo Mac, I hope a pissing match doesn't develop over "rights" and wrong. May I suggest contacting Kavi at WaterLilyAcoustics in Santa Barbara about the possibility of remastering the tapes on the wonderful analog equipment they have. Sounds like you may have a "Handfull of Beauty" there. I couldn't thread a Teac R2R when I owned one ops: sorry.
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SitarMac

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Al Humdu-Lillah-
My personal Dua' is answered regularly......And I pray that my getting all these recordings is purposeful and with some direction........

Right now....Its amazing.....I've noticed this before in some of the RAGA Records recordings.....I'm l;istening to some live recording and you can actually hear the rumble of cars going by.....Actually kind of sucks.......but the sound actually move in the speakers......so its like a car passing from left to right behind my speakers....very interesting!

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Right now....Its amazing.....I've noticed this before in some of the RAGA Records recordings.....I'm l;istening to some live recording and you can actually hear the rumble of cars going by.....Actually kind of sucks.......but the sound actually move in the speakers......so its like a car passing from left to right behind my speakers....very interesting!
LOL In India I felt the SA arose from the earth and moon and stars. In America I think it might come from the car rumbling from left to right

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Great and important find, it sounds like. By all means, get that tape onto some kind of digital format. Regarding that machine, There are some kind of little arm thingies with a spool looking tab sticking out. These are to take the shock of start and stop effect on the tape. Delicate stuff - tape. Without them, the tape could stretch or break. You mention cleaning the machine. I'll assume you used a head cleaning solution of some type with a Q-tip. Did you also degause (de-magnetize) the heads ??? Critical step !!! Friction of tape dragging across the record and playback heads sets up a residual static / magnetic charge on the heads. This charge will partially erase the signal on the tape, particularly the high end frequencies. Radio Shack Might still carry these tools or check eBay. It is essential that you get those heads unzapped !!! Good on ya, SitarMac! As each month flys by, I'm becoming more and more convinced that we Gringos, the elite fraternity of sitar and ICM caretakers are becoming the principle force in preserving the heritage of this fine music. Ironic and sad. Anyway, press on with your most important project and here recieve my thanks.
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Be very VERY carefull with these old tapes. Old age can cause the particals to fall of when playing....if you notice powdery stuff under your taperecorderhead this is a clear indication of degradation of your tape. Sometimes these tapes are "baked", bassically put into an oven where they are heated. This is stuff for specialists though..

A very cool find indeed!!!

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Tape baking can be done .... do not use a gas oven because of a inherent steam molecule problem....convection oven is what you need.... 2 hours in a 140 F degree oven for 1/4 " to 1 " tape ... 4 hours for 2' tape.
Don't go over 150 F ... then you start melting
This has worked for me with tapes that oxide was shreding off like snow flakes and conditions where the tapes become sticky because of humidity.
Proper storage will add to their life but eventually they, like we will crumble and deteriate

I love the analog world but I just finished dumping all my old "R to R"
from my Teac 80-8 and Teac 35-2. About 40 reels ... that you're constantly cleaning and de-magnetizing heads, cleaning rollers, etc. because of deteriating oxide off the mylar tape.

But I love the fact that you've found these jewels .........
You truly are the "Tape Keeper" :wink:
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